Was Cain a Giant Like the Offspring of the Fallen Angels in Genesis Chapter 6?
I have a question that my Dad posed to me but I cannot find the answer in my Bible. The recent question you answered regarding students rejecting the teaching that Satan has children on the earth has sparked some interest with my Dad. The question is, “if the offspring of the fallen angels were giants, wouldn’t Cain have been a giant too? I would very much appreciate your thoughts on this question. Thanks for all you do Steve.. God bless you my friend!
There’s a very interesting book called Sargon the Magnificent, by Mrs. Sydney Bristowe, which Pastor Arnold Murray used to highly recommend. It’s all about Cain, his travels, conquests and rulership over the sixth day creation (i.e., his rulership over what Bristowe calls “pre-Adamite humans”).
I don’t know if the Shepherd’s Chapel still carries that book in their book catalogue. But I believe they used to carry it. If I remember right, that’s where I got my copy, some 30 years ago. You can call the Chapel and ask if they have it. I’ve also seen it on Amazon. And there are some online versions, but they appear to have been sanitized of racial references made by Mrs. Bristowe, so they may not be complete.
“Superhuman Knowledge and Physique”
I don’t buy into everything the author says in her book. However, on page 16 she does state that Cain was “endowed with superhuman knowledge and physique” (i.e., size), though she doesn’t explain where she found that information.
Much of the information she presents throughout her extensively documented book is from ancient Babylonian and Assyrian historical sources, and from the writings of scholars such as the linguist and British Assyriologist Professor Archibald Sayce who did extensive work excavating areas around Babylonia and Assyria in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, and translating various Babylonian and Assyrian artifacts.
The vast majority of Mrs. Bristowe’s book examines the historical and scholarly evidence for the person known Biblically as “Sargon” being Cain himself, with the name “Sar-gon” being interpreted as “King Cain,” based on ancient Babylonian inscriptions.
So yes, Cain, being the progeny of Satan through Eve, may well have been a “giant” like those of Genesis chapter 6, where we learn about the sexual intermixing of the fallen angels with the daughters of Adam, and how that intermixing resulted in giant-sized offspring who were of a very wicked and murderous nature, just like Cain.
But it’s important to note that the Bible itself does not specifically state Cain was of giant size.
Why Aren’t Cain’s Modern-Day Progeny Giants?
This begs the question that if Cain were indeed a giant, how come his modern-day progeny are not?
Of course, when Cain was kicked out of God’s presence, we know from the Bible that he traveled “east of Eden” to the land of Nod and took a wife, meaning he married into the sixth day creation (i.e., the various races other than the Adamic race), which would have gradually bred the great size out of his genetic lineage, since they would have been significantly shorter of stature than he.
Mrs. Bristowe states in her book that after Cain left the presence of God, he at first ruled over the black race, which, like other races at that time in history extended far past Africa into the great Mesopotamian Valley, particularly the area we would later call Babylonia. (Most races probably originated in that great Mesopotamian Valley, and then spread out over the earth).
But ultimately, I (as well as Pastor Arnold Murray, based on many of his past comments in Q&A sessions) believe it was a branch of the Chinese population that Cain ultimately married into and ruled over, perhaps beginning at Babylonia and eventually extending into Mongolia.
I find the idea that Cain first married into the Chinese race very interesting, because, to this very day, the Chinese people still hold the dragon in high esteem as a symbol of power and good fortune. Of course, Biblically speaking, the dragon is symbolic of Satan, that old serpent who sired Cain through Eve (i.e., Revelation 12:9).
Keep in mind that a dragon is simply a serpent with wings, with the wings symbolizing the serpent’s widespread travel and reach throughout history, particularly through the spread of his progeny among many nations and population groups.)
Did Cain Take Wives of Only One Population Group?
I would add, at this point, that Cain was said to have been very long-lived, being somewhere between 700 and 900+ years old at his death, depending upon which historical or ancient religious sources you utilize.
This would not have been unusual at all, back then, since Methuselah lived to 969 years, according to the Bible, and Adam lived to 930 years. No one lived the full, 1,000 year “day” (II Peter 3:8), because God had told Adam and Eve they would die “in the day” they ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
So no one in the lineage of Adam and Eve (or, in Cain’s case, Satan and Eve) ever made it past 1,000 years. They all died “in the day.”
I add this information on longevity because, as Mrs. Bristowe states in her book, it’s not unlikely that over the long course of time Cain at some point also found and took wives of the female descendants of Adam and Eve.
After all, the Adamic population had, by necessity, as more and more descendants were born to them over a span of many hundreds of years, spread out over larger and larger portions of the Mesopotamian Valley, likely eventually reaching the area that would later be known as Babylonia.
And Cain, being nomadic due to God’s curse on him (“a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth”; Genesis 4:12), would have spread his reach and rule in many different directions (see my previous Bible study, Builder of Cities).
So, sooner or later, Cain would have come across daughters of Adam and Eve, even though he had previously left their initial area of habitation near the Garden of Eden when he traveled to the Biblical “land of Nod” to take a wife. And of course, men of that time, particularly powerful rulers such as Cain, took many wives and concubines of various races.
If Cain also took wives of the daughters of Adam and Eve, this would mean some Kenites (descendants of Cain) would have more Adamic blood in them than others, explaining why some Kenites, even to this very day, look very much like we do (i.e., even showing blood in the face, meaning the ability to blush), while others look more Oriental, Asiatic or Turko-Mongolian and don’t show much blood in the face, if at all.
Was Cain the Founder of China?
To her credit, Mrs. Bristowe does include a chapter toward the end of her book titled “Was Cain the Founder of China?” to which she makes many good points in the affirmative.
She states the Chinese had outposts in Babylonia “on the great Euphrates plain,” but gradually, over the course of centuries, spread their population to the Yellow River in the area of Mongolia (page 145-146), known as the “cradle of Chinese civilization.”
Bristowe speculates that the name “Cain” is reflected in many Chinese names, i.e., Khan, Chan, Chen, Chang, Kang, Chuen, Kung, Kwan, Kwon, Qwan, and other Chinese derivatives of the Hebrew name “Qayin,” which is translated “Cain” in the English Bible.
It’s my personal theory that Cain initially moved “east of Eden” (Genesis 4:16) to the area we now call Babylonia (referred to in the Bible as the “land of Nod”), where he began to rule over the various races of the sixth day creation (i.e., pre-Adamites) that lived in that area. Bristowe states in her book:
“As Cain is afterwards said to have built a city and called it after his eldest son, he must presumably have gained an ascendancy over those pre-Adamites, although he went alone amongst them.
If, as Professor Sayce thinks probable, Babylonia was the country to which Cain journeyed, and if, as the same authority suggests, the first inhabitants of that country were blacks, it is easy to imagine Cain, a white man endowed with superhuman knowledge and physique and rendered invulnerable by some divine talisman [i.e., the mark God put on Cain in Genesis 4:15], taking command over those pre-Adamites; and that he did so seems proved by the fact that he built a city and called it after his son Enoch.”
In other words, Mrs. Bristowe believes Cain was able to rule over the people of the sixth day creation because he was very intelligent and very large, compared to them, and carried that supernatural mark from God that prevented others from killing him (Genesis 4:14-15).
Then, being a nomadic person due to God’s curse on him (i.e., “a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth”; Genesis 4:12) he moved on to the geographical area we now call Mongolia (a nation bordered today by China and Russia), and married into a ruling branch of the ancient Chinese race, producing a powerful hybrid people that would later become known as the Mongols.
(This also explains how the Kenites would have escaped the flood of Noah. Cain, having moved into Mongolia where he became their ruler, was a very great geographical distance from that Mesopotamian valley where the flood of Noah took place. Pastor Murray used to mention that recorded Chinese history recounts a great and devastating flood witnessed from afar by Chinese explorers and travelers.)
And over the course of time Cain’s great size (in terms of height; if he were indeed a “giant”) would have been bred out of his progeny, because the Chinese people he married into were genetically shorter than him.
That doesn’t mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that every Chinese person is a descendant of Cain. Nor every black, nor every person of any other race. That would be ridiculous.
But thousands of years ago, a royal branch of the Chinese (i.e., later to be known as the Mongols) apparently were direct descendants of Cain, which some researchers say is why the names of Mongolian royalty carry a derivative of the name of “Cain” as a title, i.e., Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan, Mongke Khan, Ambaghai Khan, etc., all of which are hereditary titles used by Mongolian royalty as surnames.
The reign of the barbarous Mongols ultimately would extend all of the way from Mongolia to the Levant (i.e., ancient Syria/Palestine), which some say is why the name “Khan” is still to this very day “one of the most common surnames in the world,” shared not only by the Chinese, but also by many Muslims (12 million in Pakistan, alone, and also by tens of millions more people of various races throughout Central and South Asia and the Middle East).
What’s more, some say the Jewish surnames “Kahn,” “Cahn” and “Caan” are also a derivative of Cain/Khan. And when I look at images of some modern-day “Jewish” folks named Caan, for example, I can often see the oriental, Asiatic or Turko-Mongolian look in their facial features, particularly in their eyes, and particularly as they age, which accents their facial features.
However, it’s important to note that others say Jewish surnames like Kahn/Cahn/Caan are derivatives of the strictly Hebrew word for priest, Cohen (i.e., kohen, in the Hebrew language, pronounced kohane, with a long “a”).
I’m honestly not sure which is true. But I lean toward “Jewish” names like Kahn/Cahn/Caan being derivations of the name Cain/Khan, which the Kenites later, in order to hide their actual ancestry, claimed were derived from “Cohen,” the Hebrew word for “priest.” After all, the Kenites love playing the role of religious leaders among God’s people Israel.
The Mongol Nomads
Looking into this a little further, the Mongols have been referred to by historians as “the greatest nomad empire the world had ever seen” (see chapter 4, page 132 of the soft back version of Arthur Koestler’s The Thirteenth Tribe). If you Google the phrase “Mongolian nomads” you’ll find ample additional evidence for that contention.
Of course, as I’ve previously mentioned, part of God’s curse on Cain was that he’d be a “fugitive and a vagabond in the earth,” meaning a nomadic wanderer.
It’s also quite interesting to me that, historically, the Mongols had an earlier series of kings that utilized the title “Khagan” (i.e., Qaghan, in the Mongolian language, which is very similar to the Hebrew word for Cain, which is Qayin).
Pastor Arnold Murray occasionally hinted that the original “Khagan” (again, said to be a derivative of Cain’s Hebrew name, Qayin) was Cain himself, and if that were so it would obviously follow that subsequent “Khagans” were Cain’s royal Mongolian Chinese descendants and thus carried that name as a title.
According to an article in Wikipedia, the title “Khagan” can be translated “Khan of Khans,” which is the Mongol equivalent to “King of Kings.”
This is quite interesting to me, in a “like father, like son” manner, because Satan, too, in his role of the antichrist, loves imitating our Lord and Savior, the Lamb of God, who is also King of kings and Lord of lords” (Revelation 13:11; Revelation 19:16).
So it should be no surprise that Satan’s son, Cain, would do the same, as well. Again, as I’ve stated in previous commentaries and studies, “like father, like son” is the concept set forth by Christ Jesus Himself about the Kenites and their father the devil in John 8:44.
Intermarrying With the Hebrews
But with all of this in mind, it’s important to note that over the millennia since the time of Cain, various branches of the Kenites (descendants of Cain) married into many other racial populations, as well, eventually including the Hebrews among whom they dwelt at Jerusalem by the time of the Babylonian conquests, as documented in Jeremiah chapter 35. (See my previous Q&A, Do the Jews of Today Know the Kenites Intermixed With Them?)
In my opinion, this is why, in John chapter 8, Jesus would acknowledge the “Jewish” religious leaders to be of both Abraham’s lineage (John 8:37) and Cain’s lineage (John 8:44), i.e., the Kenites.
The Kenites, being the progeny of Satan, had, simply put, interbred with the Abrahamic lineage through which Jesus Christ would come, hoping to dilute it with non-semitic, non-Hebrew blood to the point it be unfit for the Messiah to be born through. But of course, they failed, as Christ’s genealogy was perfect.
Anyway, it’s a lot of speculation. But it’s well worth reading the book I mentioned, by Mrs. Sydney Bristowe, titled Sargon the Magnificent, as it provides a lot of food for thought about Cain while doing Bible studies.
And the bottom-line answer to your question is that if Cain was indeed a “giant” like the hybrid offspring of the fallen angels in Genesis chapter 6, his great height would have been bred out of his progeny over the long course of time, due to all of the intermixing with other races over the millennia, starting with the wife he took from the sixth day creation in the land of Nod, east of Eden, who may well have been Chinese.
Regards in Christ,
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